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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018.../ V, w: `4 P( P" {- O5 j

    5 s  ?+ L+ G6 [  X我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑
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    你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27
    , y5 ]1 o( A" ~. W* s$ q+ H- F这里应该是省略to了吧

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    是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考$ o: u) D- K# E3 ]6 l

    3 v3 B% W/ s# o* Hhttps://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord
    ; p6 e3 o% r- `3 c* [' Shttps://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2. N/ _+ n7 b0 O8 T' o
    accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了
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    例句* ]4 h( K: _) E( n1 e* V
    Others, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT
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    % u1 C1 C8 T# w提问
    9 ?" m+ ~8 ^& r5 y7 d6 ]8 cDear all,
    7 C  [" ^4 {, c0 q2 MShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
    / z9 z/ |, {/ c+ V4 cShe is accorded respect by her students., u8 r+ @. I' Z+ {
    Her students accord her respect.
    , C0 d9 b5 G( j0 N) GHer students accord respect to her.2 k2 N: K% h: Z1 R* f8 T
    Respect is accorded to her by her students.) `! v2 ?) |7 S; @# M
    Could you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    ( i+ G  c4 I4 f5 o! p回答
    + Q7 l/ [$ x, P7 _) Y  z/ o$ v7 N% rThis is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence." O* ]' ~6 x  w) k3 ^* S
    "Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine
    " g3 i/ D6 `* Y5 O7 t"Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
      w9 h9 h7 I$ E) z( w"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine
    4 f6 ^+ p7 \2 P8 k, C6 O"She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable* V1 P/ v# E( ~; t& j
    In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.2 ]' x6 @  v" l( D+ H" L
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    3 j- [1 O8 ]6 Z1 @8 Z; J' |% _# K确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来

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    : p6 `" U+ f) N+ ]2 y; q- I& _不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。- U$ ^2 P5 Q7 o# [+ o# K: B
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    (a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.+ t* J* ^3 ^7 L7 @/ u

    - }7 [9 q& d& J% Z) W: q* [(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).2 D) L! K% h- \& B6 R

    4 T# |- J2 G4 ^. t(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018
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    (a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .
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    (b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑
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    这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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     楼主| 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24:53 | 显示全部楼层
    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02
    1 X; I/ @# ]& Y+ O% w应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24
    $ B7 d2 ~" P/ T. J) }3 N0 F) v但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。9 q. ?8 G1 {  X+ S
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."
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    来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21
    # n1 K# _* i5 P4 \  h5 \: I4 O原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...
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    但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    本帖最后由 entropy 于 2022-6-14 22:22 编辑
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58
    + v. q# \5 f& t  G5 n  g但是为什么可以这样写呢?

    ) G! B- D, Z, v6 x8 u不清楚。之前理解错了。
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