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[词典讨论] 词典里的Big Mess Construction,兼推荐Vocabulary.com Examples

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发表于 2020-4-30 19:51:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 klwo2 于 2020-4-30 19:51 编辑
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https://www.pdawiki.com/forum/thread-40235-1-1.html
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$ ^3 x. a  Q; Z3 d! D) F3 n' Y我发现Big Mess Construction好像是比较新的英语语法现象,所以利用Goldendict 全文搜索搜了一下「 as big a 」,你们猜怎么着,真的哎!
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先说原句:Even though gas-fired heating and cooking can be at least as big a source of greenhouse-gas emissions, renewable heating gets minuscule attention.
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虽说用天然气取暖啊做饭啊也是挺大的一个排放源,排放起温室气体来,不比别的能源逊色,可是那些个可再生的取暖法、取暖能源也没多少人关注。# R. u* }4 G, U9 a8 n2 W

' s. g: Q4 L- b+ z8 n# |这句子还是有点绕的。全文搜索发现,有的词典里面有类似的句子。牛津高阶10:2 j0 x2 D/ C' N4 l  M1 t/ B9 a
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Housing has become almost as big a problem as education.

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<Unanswered e-mail is as big a turnoff as unanswered calls. Consider using your ISP's autoresponder to acknowledge received e-mail. It lets the visitors know their message arrived and gives you an opportunity to thank them for visiting the site. —Victoria Hall Smith, PC World, January 1999>

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Variety 10 Apr. 1/2
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1 F& X, s3 w4 m0 G5 mThe Liu was almost as big a pain in the neck as the previous night's Preziosilla.
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1958年
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Intrapreneurs, the people who start new businesses inside established companies, will soon be as big a catchword as entrepreneurs (Economist).

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没有抱回家的赶快抱回家,学英语不能没有它!(金坷拉!)! x! W* k) @4 [6 @! d$ x

3 E# U7 n9 S+ X: O随便一摘就是哗啦啦的句子,名报名刊名家!!
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150. Ms. Johnson, while not a native of Louisiana, was as big a champion of the region as anyone.
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179. This one seemed as big a mismatch with the Harrison twins and bevy of big bodies to control the struggling Gamecocks.9 L$ Q! C% I0 Y% d2 m: I
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42. "It put a little dampener on it, but it's just as big a race," Gay said.& l+ P7 o1 X, W) P- k
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53. According to the film, nearly 50% of young white Americans believe discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against blacks.
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96. For now, caveat emptor is going to remain as big a part of sushi culture as soy sauce and wasabi.
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我知道有人要笑话我,这不是老宝贝了嘛,怎么又广告起来了?只当是给新来的看看呗!
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/ }! M, r$ U& M& ~; Z4 f例句第二多的是Urban Dictionary,不过这本有点太俗了,就不多说啦。
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    发表于 2020-4-30 22:11:05 | 显示全部楼层
    "Housing has become almost as big a problem as education." 4 _, y1 s/ P+ k! h  M' E
    这个句子并不是BMC吧。这是as……as的结构。 在比较结构中,有as+adj+冠词+名词+as+比较对象这样的结构,还是很有规则的。

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    本帖最后由 klwo2 于 2020-5-1 10:13 编辑
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    rococoeer 发表于 2020-4-30 22:11
    0 h& i* O+ g5 u4 @' _"Housing has become almost as big a problem as education."
    8 E8 X/ T/ c# p/ P这个句子并不是BMC吧。这是as……as的结构 ...
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    Big Mess Construction是语法学家叫出来的术语,人家也没说不规则啊,请看Van Eynde, Frank. 2007. The Big Mess Construction. In Muller, Stefan (Ed.), ¨ Proceedings of the 14th International Conference on Head-Driven Phrase StructureGrammar, Stanford Department of Linguistics and CSLI’s LinGO Lab, 415–433.Stanford, CA: CSLI Publications.:' d7 c. d7 H  H! k
    In English noun phrases the determiner canonically precedes the prenominal adjectives, both the lexical and the phrasal ones.
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    (2) a. * big a house
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    A notable exception are the adjectival phrases which are introduced by as, so, too,
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    六个典型词是as so too how this that。6 ]% r2 a" X  K" T, s/ l

    3 }' F( L% b: `. x1 L这个概念是Berman, J. 1974. Adjectives and adjective complement constructions in English.Ph. D.thesis, Harvard University.里面提出来的,你找作者理论去。
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    5 N) [# E0 R% {% e6 n' B随便找找提及Big Mess Construction的论文,有如下例句:
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    8 E, W: k+ M& n  s3 lBob didn’t write [as detailed a proposal] as Sheila did.
    5 V# E2 S& _' H5 H! tBob didn’t write [as detailed of a proposal] as Sheila did
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    我可没说不准别个叫它as...as...结构,问题是:
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    1. 明摆着这个现象是不限于as的, so too how this that 都能这么用,也不一定非有第二个as不可,哪能以偏概全呢?
    8 |+ c  Q% v- I2. 传统语法书里头没提及as...as...能这么用,你要认可这是as...as...,得扩充传统语法
      }. l: y: O- ]- W* @4 ]; t3. 要点也不是非要叫什么名字,而是怎么叫方便研究、方便解释。Big Mess Construction现象的要点是,凭嘛形容词能放到冠词前头?「一棵好大的树」「一个跟姚明一样高的小伙子」凭什么能说成「好大的一棵树」「跟姚明一样高的一个小伙子」?你要是归纳成「跟……一样」的特殊用法,就偏了呀( y3 e. @  f8 [. u7 ]4 n# b

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