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[词典校勘] approach@新时代英汉大词典

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发表于 2019-10-16 14:53:53 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
我纯粹是意外看到的
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ground 条目下:
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! P% V. I, B, m  }0 J& O这句的翻译里,mid-没了姑且不说,「演绎学说」是什么?: G/ ~- d: \4 x+ ^0 K

8 B* c& N# n. t' d按说语言学应该是各位编辑的长项呀,这个明明是「基于演绎的路子/路线」!$ i; V- V8 m, j+ m3 ]

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进路,通道,引道,入口;(研究学问的)门径,方法,步骤
8 e% s  I% B# u! [" w•This book provides a good approach to psychology.本书提供研究心理学的良好门径。
+ _+ m  L2 R$ K" K•the best approach to the learning of French学习法文的最佳途径6 l( h6 p1 [/ ]8 I4 G
•the oral approach(外国语的)口说教学法

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9 U' B2 }: k/ [; s$ P9 M了解语言学的人应该也知道,这个「基于演绎的路子/路线」说的是Chomskyan linguistics,人家是有正式名字的,deductive 只是描述其特征,哪有用局部特征直接称呼「学说」的!! P, ^. O  i4 Z

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不出意外,新时代英汉大词典条下面,approach:
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/ D6 i9 j7 M# x0 f/ S; f( j第五个义项,其实是跟文馨当代对应的,但是不如文馨当代说得明白,也许是受《英汉大词典》影响?+ G' k% }3 g3 b1 s( @5 G

2 J/ f) Z" q* _6 ]9 X7 V8 t第五个义项下面「英国读者看待美国文学,需要采取一种双重态度」,这句话选得也不好,什么叫「双重态度」?编辑说得清楚吗?是爱与恨的态度嘛?
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没有上下文,我们可以合理推测,这句话的意思也许是:从英国、美国两种视角看待,毕竟英国、美国文学用的是同一种语言,却有地域差异、文化差异……所以需要从自身的角度,再从他者的角度看……
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两个问题:* H1 u5 t3 `/ L% O

6 Y% p( b4 q2 r" R3 j  |1. approach 不是学说,翻译不当;
5 H9 D, Z6 q7 l( J  L2. approach 本身选的例句不好
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2019-10-16 15:20:49 | 显示全部楼层
    deductive approach  演绎法/演绎论?
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    4 g' j$ [( x1 Y" r. wdouble approach  双重视角?

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    演绎法是固有名词,不能用  发表于 2019-10-16 15:56

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    发表于 2019-10-17 10:21:46 | 显示全部楼层
    棒球之类的体育词汇翻译错误情有可原,语言学的词汇也错,就有点讽刺了。

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    发表于 2020-4-28 16:18:03 | 显示全部楼层
    从词源看,approach本意是接近事物的方法,后引申为解决问题的办法,那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎法或者学说

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     楼主| 发表于 2020-4-30 16:48:20 | 显示全部楼层
    MYsedulous 发表于 2020-4-28 16:18
    2 e) Q. f4 ~, e) v从词源看,approach本意是接近事物的方法,后引申为解决问题的办法,那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎 ...
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    译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的,问题是跟实情不符呀
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    klwo2 发表于 2020-4-30 16:481 ^9 H; \" L0 Z1 v4 c
    译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的,问题是跟实情不符呀
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    1. near, come near or nearer, draw near or nearer, come close or closer, draw close or closer; draw nigh to, move closer to, Inf. belly up to, edge closer to; come within range, gain on, overtake, catch up to; hail, accost, confront, address, greet, salute, speak to.6 [8 ^" ]. {8 b6 S0 ?8 P
    2. approximate, nearly equal, come close to; resemble, be much like, be similar to, be comparable to.: r3 {( ~9 |' j+ _' L* S) y0 i! v
    3. present, offer, suggest, propose, recommend, advance, sound out; bring up, introduce, mention, broach; bring or put forward, propound, proffer, tender, hold out.
    9 i" {, x! L1 r! t9 J5 C4. set about, begin, start, commence, make a start, take the first step, Inf. get the show on the road.
    7 g* O' {. x3 D; L0 R& _% d6 T7 [5. make advances to, make overtures to, proposition, solicit.6 p8 F5 S% i3 f8 E1 ^) E
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    1 X9 S; l! U6 H9 J6 K$ ^, l& \6. nearness, close approximation, proximity, vicinity, neighborhood, propinquity.$ c. y3 J5 B4 k2 j, S( e
    7. access, entrance, entry, entryway, entree, inlet, ingress; ramp, drive, driveway, lane, path, pathway, sidewalk; road, route, roadway, course, street, avenue, boulevard; highway, turnpike, pike, freeway, expressway, parkway, causeway, throughway; main road, highroad, thoroughfare, state highway, U.S. Inf. interstate, state highway, tollroad; speedway, autobahn, superhighway.
    : Q2 w" I- b6 F1 }/ i1 k' [# K8. door, doorway, hatch, gate, gateway, postern, portal; threshold, stile, turnstile, wicket; hall, hallway, passage, passageway, arcade, gangway, walkway, corridor, gallery; lobby, foyer, vestibule, anteroom, waiting room; anteporch, porch, portico.6 X1 |( a! u$ g
    9. method, procedure, steps, course, mode, way, manner, style.5 N' v$ g2 s* w
    10. advance, overture, prelude, motion, gesture; offer, invitation, proposal, proposition.% G* r0 O3 D) r0 U
    11. presentation, offer, proposal, idea, thought, suggestion, recommendation.
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