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大熊部落 发表于 2014-9-4 16:47  ! X* O) Y" b* ^: [0 b7 B
中医确实是个吵架的好话题，所以我从来不在中医的论坛留言，在我看来绝大部分支持或反对中医的人都是错的 ...
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! J- H+ t" |; \% ]! _' m; A7 Z- `这些话题适合争吵不适合论证。 o6 Q7 j( S& {4 Q( G8 K% _
譬如说“哲学已死”这个观点，这个“死”就比较模糊和含混，不好定义，不同的人那里有不同的定义，而且很难达成一致。! c Y) J* ?: D a+ x
再比如“说‘哲学已死’的人根本不懂哲学”这个观点，这个“懂”也不好定义，怎么样算“懂”？这句话也不是我说的，是霍金说的，霍金也不懂或者对“哲学”的理解有偏差？他在 The Grand Design 的第一节里这么写的。) `9 V1 |7 S9 `: j* Q+ B7 j
WE EACH EXIST FOR BUT A SHORT TIME, and in that time explore but a small part of the $ a+ _$ {5 s9 Z2 U5 w/ W& j
whole universe. But humans are a curious species. We wonder, we seek answers. Living in this ' o1 X$ O& ^" t
vast world that is by turns kind and cruel, and gazing at the immense heavens above, people have % o% j; f! B. b8 K" }' W7 R
always asked a multitude of questions: How can we understand the world in which we find " i' ]- R z" o* y
ourselves? How does the universe behave? What is the nature of reality? Where did all this come
' @1 B7 f3 M* y5 Y) g8 l- Ifrom? Did the universe need a creator? Most of us do not spend most of our time worrying about 0 _. {/ [; ?1 \- `8 o$ p
these questions, but almost all of us worry about them some of the time.0 E4 G' f8 j3 a6 x
Traditionally these are questions for philosophy, but philosophy is dead. Philosophy has not kept - T4 T% Z9 F! S1 F, {
up with modern developments in science, particularly physics. Scientists have become the bearers - { ]+ d- ]5 j$ c2 m1 _
of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge. The purpose of this book is to give the
3 z J% B7 s, a* N) `answers that are suggested by recent discoveries and theoretical advances. They lead us to a new
2 @/ @, X9 f+ K* Y. `picture of the universe and our place in it that is very different from the traditional one, and / [; I" T4 A( @$ S& ^& T& ~
different even from the picture we might have painted just a decade or two ago. Still, the first / |! m+ w/ ~: ~
sketches of the new concept can be traced back almost a century.- [3 z a2 n* o0 r, l5 M/ a
According to the traditional conception of the universe, objects move on well-defined paths and
, L# ^8 Q. s' W$ @# a( ~% f( c6 Fhave definite histories. We can specify their precise position at each moment in time. Although
% o) P: C! g3 W% M2 D( q! ?; ethat account is successful enough for everyday purposes, it was found in the 1920s that this / y# b. N6 B1 X& n
“classical” picture could not account for the seemingly bizarre behavior observed on the atomic " z. J) x8 d+ V1 b8 }# F
and subatomic scales of existence. Instead it was necessary to adopt a different framework, called
2 _/ U1 q* t4 G% Fquantum physics. Quantum theories have turned out to be remarkably accurate at predicting events
7 K4 X0 N2 _4 P) f% Fon those scales, while also reproducing the predictions of the old classical theories when applied to
% L, ]% T4 r: Q, w/ ~the macroscopic world of daily life. But quantum and classical physics are based on very different
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当然，我这儿又犯了诉诸权威或者名人的逻辑错误了。. A( _& d* [) i9 D$ h" _
中医其实也很难定义。您要弄的“食疗”、“针灸”在我看来跟现代医学没啥关系，至少我理解不了。食物吃下去，都是被消化为小分子物质而后为人体吸收。针灸的话，穴位啥的其实压根儿不存在（但是，跟鬼神一样，人们似乎又证明不了它真的不存在，科学只能证明一个东西存在，不能证明一个东西不存在。），我觉得都是古人臆想出来的。“颈肩腰膝酸痛（软组织损伤）”在我看来，压根儿不是病，多锻炼锻炼就好了。
2 c# i, m q) h2 G, i1 V( x现代医学的成就除了疫苗、抗生素之类的，另外就是发现绝大多数疾病都是可以自愈的。( j; p: ?8 S* r5 h
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这些东西，其实谁也不能说服谁，只不过是通过自说自话，互相了解下，最后各自按照自己原来的路子走。人会相信自己愿意相信的东西。. a ~9 f' w8 G) w* s0 _& j
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3 T- C) O7 T1 Y% Y: |( d+ h最后，我本人是抱着娱乐的心态看待这个世界的。这还是受了Linus Torvalds的影响，他在自传Just for Fun 的 THE MEANING OF LIFE 相关章节里写到，人生的意义就是这三点：Survival. Your place in the social order. And entertainment.
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如果真有的话，期待大熊兄相关系统的研究成果面世。不过在医学科研中，“可重复性”是很重要的，如果古书上记载的现象、疗效，在现代无法重复的话，实践数据不能上升到理论高度，也不能指导实践，那有什么意义？
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这里表明下自己的态度，没有恶意，也没有说服别人的意向。
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一次相当于跑100米，短时间内5次相当于500米：这个怕是不能简单地叠加噢，就算持“一次相当于跑100米”的观点的人也不会这么算。
中医能治而西医不能治的病，我想不出来；中医不能治而西医能治的病，比如已经被消灭的天花；西医治不了而好些中医号称能治，比如某些癌症、高血压等等，这也是中医遭抨击最多的地方，甚至被扣上骗子的帽子。
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